Stephanie Turner, Payton Mcnabb Open Up On Chaotic Doge Hearing On Trans Athletes

Female athletes Stephanie Turner and Payton McNabb testified to members of Congress astatine nan Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) Subcommittee's "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" proceeding connected Wednesday.

At 1 constituent during nan hearing, nan 2 women were approached by Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas. 

"'You're some very courageous. You're very courageous being here, and I want to opportunity convey you for each of this,'" Crockett said to nan 2 women, Turner told Fox News Digital.  

"And I said ‘Payton and I some took clip retired of our time to beryllium there, and I find it very disrespectful that you would co-opt this proceeding that is astir maine and Payton and make it astir your ain politics.’"

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Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett, center, speaks to Stephanie Turner, left, a fencer who refused to compete against a transgender athlete, and Payton McNabb, a erstwhile North Carolina precocious schoolhouse volleyball subordinate who was injured by a transgender opponent, during nan proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by nan DOGE Subcommittee connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

Crockett had conscionable utilized her move during nan proceeding to divert nan speech distant from protecting women's sports, nan main intent of nan hearing, to condemn President Donald Trump for different issues. Crockett had antecedently attempted to speak 

Crockett moreover made ray of nan rumor of trans jock inclusion by turning her speech into a crippled she called "Trump aliases Trans." The crippled featured Crockett asking different witnesser whether to blasted Trump aliases trans group for a bid of unsubstantiated issues that included "increasing nan value of everything" and "ignoring nan constitution." The witnesser responded "Trump" each 12 times. 

Crockett has been outspokenly opposed to Republican efforts to support trans athletes retired of women's and girls' sports, moreover antecedently mocking Americans who declare to person been impacted. Yet, she tried to beryllium complimentary pinch McNabb and Turner, according to them. 

"I deliberation she was lying," McNabb told Fox News Digital. "I did not judge 1 connection she said, because virtually nan theatrics, and conscionable really she acted virtually nan full clip and past trying to travel complete and susurration and beryllium bully woman to us. I don't cognize what happened, it was for illustration a full different personification than what we each saw 10 seconds earlier she sewage complete there."

Fox News Digital reached retired to Crockett for further comment.

Crockett's antics were 1 of conscionable respective incidents that highlighted a proceeding of chaos that progressive aggregate shouting matches betwixt committee members and witnesses, arsenic good arsenic plainly questionable comments. Many specified comments confused, disappointment and offended Turner and McNabb. 

McNabb suffered imperishable encephalon injuries successful precocious schoolhouse aft getting spiked successful nan caput by a trans force during a volleyball match. She past had to watch opposing witnesser Fatima Goss Graves, CEO of nan National Women's Law Center, propose that nan measurement to forestall different women from facing akin injuries is to forestall spiking successful volleyball altogether.

"I would reason that nan reply is to guarantee group can't spike volleyballs into different people's heads," Goss Graves said during nan proceeding erstwhile responding McNabb's story.

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Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene holds up maps of nan U.S. successful beforehand of an alleged screenshot from USA Fencing committee head Damien Lehfeldt's Instagram during nan proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by nan Department of Government Efficiency Subcommittee astatine nan U.S. Capitol connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

For McNabb, Goss Graves' reply was startling. 

"That was conscionable perfectly ridiculous," McNabb said. "The truth of nan matter is, that time and that wounded was dissimilar thing other I've ever experienced, and it's because it was a man who deed maine successful nan face, it's really conscionable that simple."

What came arsenic an moreover bigger daze to McNabb was erstwhile Goss Graves offered to activity pinch nan erstwhile volleyball subordinate to thief her retrieve from her encephalon damage, during nan hearing. 

"That's not happening. This female is evidently not sane, and I don't cognize why she would deliberation I would ever want immoderate aesculapian proposal aliases proposal successful wide from her," McNabb said.

Turner, who went viral successful April for refusing to look a trans force astatine a fencing lucifer and getting punished by USA Fencing, took peculiar discourtesy to comments made by Rep. Lateefah Simon, D-Cal. During Simon's turn, she suggested that protecting women's sports would lead to bringing backmost group segregation and that Black women would beryllium disproportionately targeted by trans jock regularisation laws. 

"I find that, arsenic a Black female myself, to beryllium rather offensive," Turner said. 

"I find it violative because they lead pinch this connection ‘as a Black woman, I’m a Black woman.' Well, I'm a Black woman, I was calved successful Washington D.C., I was raised successful 1 of nan bluest parts of America successful Montgomery County, Maryland, and no, I don't work together pinch you, that's wrong." 

Wednesday besides marked nan first clip Turner came face-to-face pinch USA Fencing chair Damien Lehfeldt, who was subpoenaed to nan hearing, since her viral kneel protest. Turner was fixed a achromatic paper for refusing to look nan trans opponent, disqualified and escorted retired of nan venue, and past fixed a 12-month probation. 

Lehfeldt was aggressively pressed by Republican committee members passim nan proceeding astir his organization's pro-trans policies and reward of Turner. 

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From near to right, Rep. Jasmine Crockett, Rep. Melanie Stansbury and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene speak during nan proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by nan Department of Government Efficiency Subcommittee astatine nan U.S. Capitol connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

At 1 point, Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., utilized her clip to inquire Lehfeldt to apologize to Turner. Lefheldt did not apologize upon nan request, and successful response, Mace suggested Lehfeldt was "not" a man.

"Real men protect women, you're not one," Mace said. 

Turner said she was not amazed by Lehfeldt's refusal to apologize and would not person accepted it moreover if he did.

"An apology is conscionable quiet words without actions," Turner said. 

Turner added that aft Wednesday's hearing, she sees nan adjacent large extremity successful nan activity to protect women's sports is to push USA Fencing to make actual changes to its gender eligibility argumentation to protect women competitors. 

The statement said it is preparing to amend its existent policies that let biologic males to compete pinch women and girls successful nan arena that it is "forced" to alteration it. 

Education Secretary Linda McMahon antecedently announced that nan recently formed Title IX investigations squad will beryllium probing nan incident involving Turner and trans competitor Redmond Sullivan. 

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