Government Accountability Expert Tells '60 Minutes' Fraud 'is Not A Political Issue,' Optimistic On Doge

Longtime fraud consequence master Linda Miller was cautiously optimistic successful an question and reply that aired Sunday astir nan Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), though she emphasized that nan request to extremity authorities fraud is not political.

"I really deliberation fraud is not a governmental issue. This is mom and pome pastry stuff," Miller told "60 Minutes." "We each work together that bad actors should not beryllium stealing American payer dollars. But now, it's go political. People for illustration me, and group successful nan rule enforcement community, we spot nan adversary, not arsenic Republicans aliases Democrats, but arsenic overseas adversarial nation-states and organized crime rings." 

She added, "And I judge that there's opportunities for DOGE to prevention a batch of important money, if they attraction connected nan correct things, if they attraction connected existent fraud."

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Elon Musk and nan Department of Government Efficiency purpose to trim authorities spending and fraud. (Getty Images)

However, Miller clarified that DOGE and DOGE laminitis Elon Musk tended to equate "fraud" pinch "wasteful spending," which she pointed retired were 2 abstracted issues.

"You whitethorn not work together pinch what USAID does, you whitethorn not want to beryllium investing American dollars in, you know, overseas fertilizer, for illustration — you whitethorn deliberation that's nan incorrect point to beryllium spending money on, but that's not fraud," Miller said.

During nan "60 Minutes" segment, analogous Cecilia Vega said to experts for illustration Miller, who based on that hundreds of billions of dollars successful fraud were caused not solely by group falsely taking disablement benefits, but besides by world crime rings from dispute nations for illustration Russia aliases China, done specified actions arsenic stealing authorities costs from disaster assistance.

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Linda Miller warned "60 Minutes" that authorities fraud was approaching $1 trillion. (Getty Images)

Though she said nan "jury’s still out" connected whether DOGE has been effective successful combating fraud, Miller said she saw signs that it was addressing nan correct issues.

"To beryllium honest, Elon Musk coming retired and saying, ‘There is simply a immense magnitude of fraud,’ I invited that connection wholly because, finally, personification is really saying this," Miller said.

Last month, Musk and DOGE unpaid Antonio Gracias identified more than 2 cardinal noncitizens who were issued Social Security numbers successful FY2024. So far, they person recovered that astir 1 cardinal noncitizens were issued Social Security numbers successful FY2025, which began successful October and will extremity successful September.

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