Any Tie Bryan Kohberger Has To 'pappa Rodger' Could Become Clear When Gag Order Is Lifted

The mysterious fig emerged successful precocious 2022 successful a Facebook group dedicated to nan chat of nan Idaho student murders lawsuit — and vanished astir nan clip of Kohberger's apprehension connected Dec. 30 of that year, prompting speculation that nan relationship could person been linked to nan killer.

In nan last weeks of 2022, nan relationship emerged successful a ample Facebook group dedicated to seeking justness for nan victims: University of Idaho students Madison Mogen, 21, Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20.

Authorities person made nary nationalist comments aliases tribunal filings linking Kohberger to nan account. But pinch nan gag bid preventing astir extrajudicial chat of nan lawsuit expected to extremity soon, authorities could yet reside posts from nan relationship — aliases nan nationalist could find retired done unsealed hunt warrant returns, find disclosures, aliases integer forensics from Kohberger's devices.

"At nan very least, we mightiness spot warrant requests for societal media accounts," said Joshua Ritter, a erstwhile Los Angeles charismatic and big of "Courtroom Confidential." "Which would bespeak they had nan aforesaid suspicions."

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Bryan Kohberger arrives astatine a Pennsylvania courthouse for an extradition proceeding successful January 2023. He pleaded blameworthy to nan murders of 4 University of Idaho students connected Jul. 1, 2025 (The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)

Previously released tribunal records show authorities sought accusation from dozens of tech companies, including Amazon, Google and Meta, Facebook's genitor company. The records they received stay unclear.

Using a floor plan photograph that appeared to show a man successful an old-fashioned subject azygous that immoderate person suggested looks akin to Kohberger's existent appearance, nan relationship was known for cryptic posts astir circumstantial evidence, including a reference to a weapon sheath earlier constabulary revealed they recovered one.

Some observers — successful Moscow and beyond — judge Kohberger was down nan account. Especially since nary 1 has travel guardant and claimed work successful nan 3 years he's been down bars. But posts from nan relationship person mostly vanished.

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Madison Mogen, apical left, smiles connected nan shoulders of her champion friend, Kaylee Goncalves, arsenic they airs pinch Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, and 2 different housemates successful Goncalves' last Instagram post, shared nan time earlier nan 4 students were stabbed to death. (@kayleegoncalves/Instagram)

Screenshots taken earlier nan relationship was taken down show Pappa Rodger predicted that nan slayer near down a weapon sheath arsenic early arsenic Nov. 30, 2022. Although a Ka-Bar weapon had already been identified arsenic a potential execution weapon and different group said they had already speculated astir a sheath by then, it was nan phrasing that group disconnected siren bells for 1 of nan administrators. 

"He besides didn't opportunity ‘a sheath’ — he said ‘the sheath,' which is really eerie," said Kristine Cameron, 1 of nan group down nan "University of Idaho Murders - Case Discussion" group connected Facebook.

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A screenshot of a Facebook station by "Pappa Rodger" made connected Nov. 30, 2022. (Courtesy of Kristine Cameron)

On Dec. 5, 8 and 21, nan relationship posted diagrams of nan King Road location that purported to show nan locations of nan bodies. 

However — based connected statements from Prosecuting Attorney Bill Thompson made successful tribunal astatine Kohberger's plea hearing — nan locations look incorrect. He said Chapin had been killed successful his slumber successful Kernodle's room — not successful nan surviving room for illustration Pappa Rodger asserted.

"As nan suspect was either coming down nan stairs aliases leaving, he encountered Xana, and he ended up sidesplitting her, besides pinch a ample knife," Thompson told nan tribunal connected July 1, 2025. "Ethan Chapin, Xana's boyfriend, was dormant successful their chamber — successful her bedroom. And nan suspect killed him arsenic well."

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Pappa Rodger's sketch of nan Idaho student murders crime scene, arsenic seen successful a Dec. 21, 2022 Facebook post. (Courtesy of Kristine Cameron)

On Dec. 22, nan relationship asserted that, "The slayer is not successful nan victims (sic) contiguous circle," and, "The slayer is not a student." Kohberger was not friends pinch immoderate of nan victims and attended a different schoolhouse nearby, Washington State University.

On Jan. 5, 2023, Cameron told Fox News Digital Pappa Rodger's chats and posts had been "wiped from FB."

"The nighttime anterior to Bryan getting arrested, Pappa Rodger was going backmost and distant pinch different member, calling nan personnel names," she said astatine nan time. "We had spoken to him galore times astir nan measurement he was talking."

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Exterior evening changeable of execution segment connected king roadworthy astatine nighttime during a quadruple execution investigation. (Derek Shook for Fox News Digital)

She recalled nan poster challenging different users to "fight me" and grading comments "like a professor."

"His peculiar station that asked really agelong nan slayer was successful nan location caused each kinds of speculation, but he was adamant that nan slayer was successful nan location for 15 minutes," she added. Most group doubted 4 slayings could've been carried retired successful that span, she said, but it's adjacent to what prosecutors would later allege successful tribunal documents.

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Then nan posts stopped astir nan clip of Kohberger's arrest, she said, and to this time she believes nan slayer could person been down nan account.

The victims of Nov. 13 University of Idaho massacre, from near to right: Kaylee Goncalves, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle and Madison Mogen. (Instagram)

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Kohberger himself did not respond to a mobility astir nan relationship from Fox News Digital for this story.

"Until prosecutors aliases rule enforcement travel forward, I'm gonna spell up and estimate that Pappa Rodger is Bryan Kohberger," said Lauren Conlin, a PopCrimeTV big who has been intimately pursuing nan case.

In a caller book by crime fabrication fable James Patterson and investigative journalist Vicky Ward, nan authors compared Kohberger straight to Elliott Rodger, a wide murderer who killed six students adjacent nan University of California, Santa Barbara, and injured 14 different group successful May 2014.

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"No 1 knows that, for illustration Rodger, Bryan is simply a virgin who hates women," nan book reads. "No 1 knows that Bryan copes pinch loneliness by immersing himself successful video games. Like Rodger, he goes for nighttime drives. Like Rodger, he visits nan weapon range. And, for illustration Rodger, he goes to a section barroom and tries to prime up women."

An undated photograph of execution fishy Elliot Rodger is seen astatine a property convention by nan Santa Barbara County Sheriff successful Goleta, California May 24, 2014. Rodger, 22, went connected a rampage successful Isla Vista adjacent nan University of California astatine Santa Barbara campus, stabbed 3 group to decease astatine his flat earlier shooting to decease 3 much successful a terrorizing crime spree done nan neighborhood.  (ROBYN BECK/AFP via Getty Images)

Elliot Rodger, 22, wrote a 137-page manifesto airing his grievances arsenic an "involuntary celibate," aliases incel, and societal outcast. Kohberber, to nan dismay of galore members of nan nationalist and immoderate victims' families, did not explicate a motive for his crimes erstwhile he pleaded blameworthy connected July 1, weeks earlier his proceedings would person kicked off.

Some of Rodger's victims were members of their school's Greek life — arsenic were each of Kohberger's.

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Rodger killed himself aft nan execution spree. Kohberger astir sewage distant pinch his. Authorities said they didn't moreover person his sanction until much than a period aft nan murders, aft nan FBI utilized investigative familial genealogy techniques to travel up pinch a caller lead based connected nan single-source DNA sample taken from nan Ka-Bar sheath.

Bryan Kohberger arrives astatine Monroe County Courthouse successful Pennsylvania successful beforehand of highly anticipated extradition hearing. He's charged pinch nan murders of 4 University of Idaho students. (The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)

Eleven days later, they had Kohberger successful handcuffs. 

The plea woody took nan imaginable decease punishment disconnected nan table. Kohberger is expected to person 4 consecutive life situation sentences positive different 10 years astatine a general sentencing proceeding connected July 23. As portion of nan deal, he waived his correct to entreaty aliases activity a condemnation reduction.

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A proceeding connected whether nan tribunal should assistance nan gag bid earlier sentencing is scheduled for Thursday.

Fox News' Stephanie Nolasco and The Associated Press contributed to this report.